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Since there are 13 Archetype Wikis and only two admins thus far, we need creative minds to help us to not only keep the wikis going, but to help gain a wider audience. We need at least 4 admins to assist us.
Here are the conditions:
An admin must have creative and professional writing skills.
An admin must be organized with the articles and the proposals.
So recently, I feel like the votes for candidates are fairly lackluster. For the most part, they're generally one sentence to upvote or downvote candidates. While this doesn't seem to be an issue when talking about most traditional candidates, we are starting to run into an actual problem when talking about more complex cases. For example, someone unfamiliar with the criteria might upvote an obvious non-qualifer by saying "Yes to [Candidate X] for doing [Action Y]". In order to stop these types of situations from happening, I've decided to require votes to be relatively detailed enough to show that voters actually understand the criteria. For example, instead of just talking about their actions, it is encouraged for Voters to address the actual personality of candidates from now on. While actions are important for a character to count, personality is another important aspect for these archetypes. Any vote that is deemed lackluster will be registered as Invalid if not properly expanded.
What is the work? the flash (2014) is a action drama show
Who is the canidate?
Julian is the main antagonist turned supporting character of season 3 of the flash
What makes him a shonen rival?
Is Heroic/Anti heroic: He helps team flash
Is Arrogant/Jerkish: He told Barry Allen to quit forensics after defending Frost
Wears black: His alter ego Doctor Alchemy wears black
Is a genuine threat/villain: he was considered the main antagonist before savitar showed up
Intelligent: Made a cure for Caitlyn Snow
Persistent: He tried convincing Caitlyn to take the cure
Tragic: He was possessed by savitar against his will
Redemption arc: He becomes much more heroic after he realizes he is Doctor Alchemy
Has respect for the shonen hero: After Barry reveals he is the flash Julian respects him
Verdict: yes
Most Shonen Rivals get easily annoyed by those around them.
Irritable: A Shonen Rival gets annoyed easily.
Most Shonen Rivals come off as harsh and abrasive, but they are actually caring when they want to be.
Is a Tsundere: A Shonen Rival displays a tough exterior but actually cares for their friends and/or has romantic feelings for someone.
We reached 50 pages!!
We now have Shonen Heroes/Villains Wiki, Shojo Heroes Wiki and Seinen Heroes/Villains Wiki? Do you think it'd be a good idea?
For the most part, many of the characters on this Wiki are rather complex and dynamic with many going through major redemption or self-improvement arcs. However, which Shonen Rival approved here do you consider the most flat in terms of character?
Is it possible to add Char Aznable here?
When filling out the "Type of Shonen Rival" part of the infobox, do not fill it with "XXX Rival", as it would be somewhat redundant.
From now on, no more Archetype Proposals in the Discuss Section. Every proposal needs to be a blog.
The reason for this change is because other wikis are starting to permanently switch to blog posts, and blog posts allow greater quality control of the proposals, and people will not be spammed with notifications of people voting on the proposal. Plus, the editor is allowed to edit the post after 24 hours, which is a good thing to add quality information to it such as after a new episode is released or more information has been found out by the user about the character.
Is a Rival: A Shonen Rival is a rival of another character, usually a Shonen Hero.
As a Shonen Hero has Has Rivals/Mentors quality, I feel that a Shonen Rival should have similar bonus quality. Also, the quality name and quality description are not perfect and suggestions for better name and description are welcomed.
5 Votes in Poll
(Disclaimer: some of what is written here is taken from my Shonen Hero proposal for both Denji and Power).
What's the Work?
Chainsaw Man is a manga series created by Tatsumi Fujimoto in late 2018. It is pubilished in the magazine Weekly Shonen Jump.
Who are the Characters?
Aki Hayakawa is a major character from Chainsaw Man, serving as one of the two deuteragonists for Part 1.
Katana Man is a character from Chainsaw Man, initially appearing as a minor antagonist in Part 1, and as a major ally in Part 2.
What Makes Them Shonen Rivals?
Aki
Heroic: As a member of the Security Bureau, Aki has protected Tokyo from several devil threats.
Honorable: Aki is typically very polite, and becomes very protective of Denji and Power as the story progresses to the point he's willing to give up his goal of killing the Gun Devil so both of them could live safely, and was also willing to give up two months of his life to save the Angel Devil despite his own hatred towards devils.
Tragic: Aki's family was killed by the Gun Devil when he was a child, leaving him to grow up alone filled with rage for devils.
Intelligent: In sharp contrast to Denji, Aki is a very intelligent and mature man.
Pursues a Big-End Goal: Aki seeks to avenge his family by killing the Gun Devil.
Cynical: He has a hard time trusting on anyone, especially when it comes to devils.
Pessimistic: Aki has a very nihilistic outlook in life, and doesn't see it in a positive light.
Perpetual Frowner: He hardly ever smiles, and is typically sporting a serious look in his face everytime he appears.
Celibate: Due to being a workaholic and being too focused on his goal, Aki hardly shows any interest in romance.
Is a Blood Knight: Thanks to his own hatred towards devils, Aki has no qualms about killing them and even tends to enjoy the task.
Katana Man
Anti-Heroic/Anti-Villainous: After being initially an antagonist, he eventually joins the Security Bureau (albeit for his own greedy reasons), and was willing to help Asa and Yoru to rescue and protect Denji, but only because he wants to kill him himself.
Honorable: Shockingly, even him ends up feeling sympathy for Denji after his reaction to seeing his appartment burnt down in the ground and Nayuta's disappearance, and even makes his own suggestion to cheer him up.
Naturally Talented: Unlike Denji who initially struggled with his Chainsaw Man form, Katana Man is naturally very skilled with his blades, something he even mocks Denji for.
Arrogant/Jerkish: Both would be a massive understatement for him. Katana Man is very prideful of his own strength, and is typically a mysogynistic asshole that is very unpleasant to be around.
Pursues a Big-End Goal: Kill the Chainsaw Man and make him apologize for killing his grandfather.
Believes in the Power of Individual Strength: As mentioned above, he's extremely prideful of his own strength.
Redemption Arc: Somewhat... While he doesn't become a full-on hero he does join the Security Bureau and becomes an ally to Asa, Yoru and Denji (although a VERY flimsy one).
Is A Serious Threat/Villain: Initially introduced as an antagonist that is part of the Gun Devil cult, driven entirely by his wish of killing the Chainsaw Man and avenging his grandfather.
Short-Tempered: Gets angered very easily when things don't go his way.
Born Into Privilege: Katana Man was born as part of the Yakuza, as a result he ended up having a very privileged life, and unlike Denji, he has a very positive opinion about the Yakuza, even going as far as calling them "true heroes".
Is a Blood Knight: He loves fighting so he can brag about his own strength.
Veredict?
Weak yes for Aki, as even though he fits the criteria he was only a rival to Denji in the beginning of the story, meaning he was a rival for a very brief time. Katana Man though is a shocking yes, he's a much more clear rival than Aki that ends up being a perfect foil to Denji, and even though he's VERY unlikable and initially starts as a Hate Sink (which would immediately disqualify him), his appearance in Part 2 ends up toning up his comedic moments such as his pompousness, his over-the-top hatred towards Denji and his dynamic with the Nail Fiend, allowing him to rise to Entertainingly Detestable status, which allows him to qualify.
Recently, I have discovered a massive issue on this wiki and the Shonen Villains Wiki, as they both allow anonymous users, while they are nowhere to be found on the Shonen Heroes Wiki and other 3 archetype wikis, so as a result, I have decided to make them one and the same and ban anonymous users from contributing here.
As the title says. Recently, I saw the proposal of MtP Sherlock and William in Shojo Hero Wiki. Should we allow characters who have crush on someone but does not evolve into official romantic relationship?
Ok, so, recently I have been analyzing Jet's character because of my "Sonic fever", and I feel he should be here.
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Jet_the_Hawk
What's The Work?
Sonic the Hedgehog is a world-famous video game series created by Sega in 1991.
Who Is He?
Jet is a minor antagonist/ally of the series, first appearing in Sonic Riders, he is the leader and youngest member of the series and Sonic's third rival.
What Makes Him a Shonen Rival?
Anti-Heroic: Jet has put aside his rivalry with Sonic sometimes to defeat worse threats such as Eggman and the Babylon Guardian.
Honorable: Jet has shown a rather honorable side, at one point praising Shadow and Rouge's skills.
Arrogant/Jerkish: Jet is extremely cocky and a massive jerk, with a snide sense of humor
Pursues a Big-End Goal: Jet wishes to acquire as much wealth as possible.
Short-Tempered: Jet is extremely wrathful, and can throw fits over petty things.
Spiky Hair: Jet has spiky-mohawk like feathers on his head.
Unnatural Hair Color: Green.
Verdict?
Yes for Jet. While he is not as notable as Shadow, he still meets the criteria.
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